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MF Bois Outdoors Podcast: Ep 21; Wyatt Mclemore #2
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On this episode the host, Blaine, is talking with a lifelong friend and hunting buddy Wyatt Mclemore. we discuss how duck season and turkey season were for us this year, The ups and downs of both, and what we have planned for next duck season!
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SPEAKER_01Doing pretty good, pretty good. Appreciate you having me on.
SPEAKER_02Yes, sir. Man, you know, going back to the high school days, like, yeah, you probably used to beat me back then, but I think I got you. I think I got your number now.
SPEAKER_01Me on that workout grind right now, too. Well, I've I just started back doing jujitsu and I'm last time it was me on it, now it's you on it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Bro, those were not the days whenever you were up at like 10 30 and we knew we had to be up at 10.
SPEAKER_01Oh, it was miserable. Y'all was sleeping. I'm in there lifting weights and uh what an Airbnb or whatever we were in. That was awful.
SPEAKER_02Bro, I don't even know if I'd call that thing an Airbnb. We were staying in like uh an office.
SPEAKER_01I was so tired when we got back though. I was ready to go to bed.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, bro. And then you stole my dog from me that trip.
SPEAKER_01I know she she I know it.
SPEAKER_02Actually, it's not very hard to steal my dog. She don't if we're on a trip, there's other people around, bro. She ain't sleeping with me. It just is what it is. We go to Arkansas with other people. She likes that new attention, she don't like the old stuff. And quiet, bro, you just be gassing her up.
SPEAKER_01So my dog.
SPEAKER_02Well, hopefully this year she's she is taken care of. She's gonna be straightened out. Yeah, she's got surgery here in a couple weeks. I'm gonna be using the heck out of that retriever fuel low-key to get her back. I already told my man's, I said, Hey, I'm about to be buying a bunch of this stuff, so he was like, Oh, you know, I'm down for it.
SPEAKER_01He's he's gonna send you as much as you want. No, that stuff, uh, every it seemed like even when she was hurt, that stuff and she was using it, at least you know, gave her a little jump. She struggled, obviously, because her knee you can tell that she knew what it was every time you were giving it to her.
SPEAKER_02Oh, dude, she had torn CCL, bro. There's I mean, that's like a devastating uh injury for a human, and it's just like nah, okay, whatever. She went straight.
SPEAKER_01Her drive's crazy too. Like it's like even when she knew she was going to hunt, she was like, she wouldn't not go just because oh no, bro.
SPEAKER_02And then she'd hobble her way back home.
SPEAKER_01That's what I knew. She was just hobbling back, like, that's poor dog.
SPEAKER_02Man, I should have taken her a lot sooner, but man, it's just it's rough. I took her to the vet like three times here before I was like finally like, all right, y'all don't really know what's going on, so I'm gonna take her to a specialist. And then he was like, Yep, all right, let's do it. I was like, All right, let me pull out the pocketbook, but alright.
SPEAKER_01You sent them off the training and everything, taking care of them all the stuff or ears or feet.
SPEAKER_02I know, bro. I know, but uh man, dude, how was out of I would say out of like one to ten comparatively to other seasons, where do you rate this duck season?
SPEAKER_01I got a lot of first in North Dakota. That was a banger. First day up there was nuts. Uh then now I was in Kansas first or second. Second, bro. You came to see your boy first. That's what it was. So I got back to Kansas, went to Kansas, had a pretty good week there. It was rough though. It was it was people everywhere. We had a couple mile walks through the Marsh. That was terrible. Um then on to Tennessee. Tennessee Tennessee was alright. We we had a couple good weeks in the house. No, that will say we it took a while, but those last two middle we got middle Tennessee. West Tennessee was pretty good. I got lucky enough that somebody's brought me out there and whatever. Um but middle Tennessee was rough. How many times we hunted and shot what a handful of ducks? That one day we hunted in the snow, we should have shot more, but that blind had a little bit of issues. The what? The brush on our blind was struggling with that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's all good. The uh, but bro, I shot that golden eye, bro. That was pretty sweet. I still got it in the freezer. I need to take that thing to the taxader.
SPEAKER_01I took that uh no, I took my black duck what last November, so it shouldn't be too much longer. And then I got that that big old comment in the freezer. Oh, good gosh. Those juggers come flying across the water. I was like, what is that? I forgot you shot one of those. That's pretty sweet. That's a pretty sick duck, I'm not gonna lie to you.
SPEAKER_02And then Brady's backs. Are they bigger than a mallard?
SPEAKER_01Oh, dude, there's it. I got a picture of it, I'll send you. I forget. Yeah, you sent it to me. It's probably double as it's probably not about size and a half of a mallard.
SPEAKER_02I haven't actually I don't think I've actually seen a common ever like flying. Like, I think I've seen a lot of things.
SPEAKER_01Ridiculous, it's huge.
SPEAKER_02How many kids?
SPEAKER_01They were doing what a diver does, just flying across the top of the water.
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah. Dude, I I'm not gonna lie. I really started diver hunting this year, and like low-key, I'd buy like six diver lines right now because I like doing it.
SPEAKER_01It was that quite a bit. And the thing about where we hunt too, you never know what you're gonna get, especially like we're not in a we're not in the flyway, so we're we're you know, we get what we can take. And them days where it snows and it locks up, you know, you gotta take what you see all the time. It's gonna be divers. You I mean I I shot a I didn't shoot many, but we shot a hand golden eye, a lot of McGanders, Commons, we seen a bunch, and then Camus Baxter says it was like all kinds of stuff that we don't ever usually see, and then everything freezes up and it starts snowing, and everything just starts coming up. So, like we don't ever run I say we probably run a dozen and a half, and when it was snowing, and we had like part of the only part of the the little open area that we had, we had a huge spread, and it we tried a few decoys, but there were so many ducks, it was just like yeah, we just started throwing a bunch of decoys out, and that that worked better for us.
SPEAKER_02So in the next year, I think if I'm if I'm up on the main lake or you know, uh hunting the river or whatever, bro. I I found running like two dozen uh mallard decoys near the blind, and then like even if it's not really that that heavy, I'll run a dozen mallards next to the blind, and then uh I'll run a diver line whether just depending on weather, of course, wind. Uh I started running like two diver lines, and bro, those diver lines, those things. When I hunted up, um you remember that hunt that I had this year that was um banger? Bro, me and that other guy just went out one morning. That is a heck of a story. We should I call I call this guy. I love Corey to death, but uh I call Corey. I'm like, nobody's going hunting tomorrow.
SPEAKER_01Like that's when it was I found one ramp that was not froze up, but it was not long.
SPEAKER_02Oh, the one we went down was froze up, but it was it was fun. We made it happen. But so I call and I'm like, hey man, I'm like, you what you want to go hunting tomorrow? He's like, bro, I haven't touched my boat and it's outside, and that like that ice was nasty.
SPEAKER_01Oh, it was real. I had mine sitting up underneath the tent and it was stiff.
SPEAKER_02And uh, so he's like, I ain't done nothing. So he's like, let me go see what I can do. He's like, I I would like to go. And I mean, dude, we're just guessing.
SPEAKER_01I don't know if there's you gotta think though, we're you know, we haven't had good weather all year, and then you got this week of just straight, nasty, yeah.
SPEAKER_02This was probably like freezing. This was probably like the 29th of January because I was off for real foot from I think it was a Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. I was off. But Corey's like, let me go look. So he goes and looks, he's like, I can't even get the plug in my boat. And I was like, Oh bro, you don't need to. If it's froze up, it'll be fun. He just started laughing.
SPEAKER_01Me and Brady would have to take a torch to ours to get into the thumbnail.
SPEAKER_02So he's finally like, Yeah, screw this, I'm not going. He's like, I ain't getting into all this. And then he calls me back, like, I'm about to like, I'm literally dozing off. And all I hear is like, I can just hear, like, I don't know, I just got a weird feeling that my phone was ringing. I think the maybe the light was shining up in the sky or like into my room or something. Turn on or open my eyes, and I'm like, oh crap, Corey's calling. I answered it and he said, uh, he said, I got the plug, I really want to go tomorrow. I said, All right. So then he was like, uh, what time do we need to be at the ramp? I was like, uh, pretty early. I was like, I know the guys ain't hunting, but it's gonna be pre-packed still. So we was the first ones at the ramp. Get to the blind. And uh he's but we knew, like, hey, uh our buddy told us, hey, the game warden uh called me to ask me if somebody's gonna be hunting, and I told him uh I didn't know because it was a couple days ago. And so there was a chance we could hunt with the game warden, which I don't care, but um it's good getting on the good side of the game. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it don't matter to me. I don't do nothing sketch, so you know me. And uh and I know you now uh no, so we go out and uh driving up to the blind ramp slick as crap, bro. Like just one of those days. And we go out there, and when I tell you, like, shoot light comes, and we have like like one minute after shoot light, three spoonies land at the end of the decoy line, and like two shots, all three of them fall, they were so close together. I was like, dang, we about to have us a day, Quiry. He said, Yeah, I feel that. And then uh so we keep getting more and more like a bluebill comes in, and it wasn't like a banger of a hunt, bro. It wasn't just like done at 7 a.m.
SPEAKER_01I mean it was for middle Tennessee, you know.
SPEAKER_02Right, well, that's what I'm saying. Like, it wasn't for here, we look forward to days like that. Bro, we had cans come in. I don't remember what else we shot. We shot bluebills, cans, maybe at Reddit. I don't remember what all we shot that day, but dude, last group that came in, or actually, funny enough, I heard right next to the blind. I was like, what the heck? And bro, like the blind's kind of hard to shoot, like to the sides. And so it was like right back to my right. There was like four hooded merganters, and I was like, screw it, give me my hooded mergantzer. I turn around as well. Here, you take what you can get. I I turn around the blind and uh go to shoot, and Corey's like, How many of them did you get? Because I shot all three times. I said, None.
SPEAKER_01That's not like you either. Usually, if you're shooting and it's a decent shot, something's gonna be.
SPEAKER_02Like North Dakota type stuff. Like I I look and I say, Corey, do not move. And I just go, dude, I watched these mowards, they flew this way, and then they went and locked up, and I was like, oh, Corey, don't move. Like, oh, that one of them, that's one of those knee shakers, you know, dude. I was I was shaking, shaking, shaking. And they I said, Corey, we're only shooting green. Do not shoot a hen unless they're all flying away and you cannot find another one. I said, Don't shoot hens. But so there's they like come and sit, but like they're out there, they're still like 40. They ended up they ended at the end of the diver line for some reason. And uh about the time they all go to sit, I say, go! And uh, like I said, it's out there. Uh, and I had the passing choke, and I dropped two two mallards, and I was like, Oh yeah, and Corey was like, Corey was on the left-hand side of the bond, and they were on the right.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02But dude, I ain't never seen crap like that. I I'd do anything to go back and get that on camera. It was the sickest thing I've ever seen.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we had that day was the day me and bro, well, we broke ice for I don't know, probably I say broke ice. We drove the boat through ice for a good while and finally found an open hole. I was like, heck, we might this might be the only thing we find. And it was probably a 30-yard hole, nothing crazy, but big enough to where if there's nothing else, I mean there's plenty where where ducks would land, and well, then sun comes up and the sky's just filled with ducks. And that's I ain't really I ain't used to seeing that. I'm used to seeing, you know, here's two and here's three, and then there that's it till about you know lunchtime when they start maybe coming back or something. And I'm like, oh my gosh, like what is going on? And Brady's like, then it everything starts landing more on the middle, like kind of like not main lake, but you know, we're in kind of like starts to narrow off into a channel, and then you got a bigger part just kind of off the lake. And we're you like you're saying, and you're talking about diver lines. We're used to hunting pockets and little like creeks or rivers, so we're not used to diver lines, we're just used to you know, set a small spread and you know, maybe a jerk cream and some pumpers, and that's it. And I got to realize I got was like, dude, these ducks are in big groups. I was like, we've got to put out more decoys, like it this doesn't ain't working. And so we threw out everything we had in that day. It was kind of like a learning day, and then and next day we come back because we didn't see near as many ducks at first flight, but everything was just doing it on top of us. And I'm not gonna lie, if it wasn't for Brody, my dad said he snuck a couple in there, but he's like, I swear I was the one that killed him. I I would shoot the first, we we call a shot and it was kind of like it depended. Like, we had our decoy kind of split a little bit and some trickled in the middle, and they were one to light on the right, and we call a shot and we shoot the the first one, and they come, it was more twos and threes, besides them commons come in like a group of 20, and I was like, Oh boy, but no, probably wasn't that last shot was Hail Mary's, and Brody was just dropping them. I'm like, dude, there's no way you're and we were talking about we're talking about 60 yards, and I'm like, oh my gosh, that duck's gone. We didn't have a duck leave until I don't know, probably our fourth group, and it was because of me. Uh I was shooting, and then uh a single pin pin tail came in and landed, and I go to shoot five yards off the water, boom, boom, and I said, Oh, here we go. Boom! Yeah, it's gone. But don't you love that, bro? Like that was like in North Dakota. Oh, I went three for three, and then I'm like, I'm like, oh yeah.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah, no, this man, this man picks up my shotgun with daggum flight day ammo and uh a molar choke, and he's sitting there and he's going, he he pulls up, and uh the ducks kind of did come in on our side, not gonna cap.
SPEAKER_01No, them that first group, I'm talking about 10 yards in my face. I ain't I've never been North Dakota, so that was new for me. And I'm just like, my eyes were like this. Why they're just floating in front of me, and I'm just like picking up before shoot time.
SPEAKER_02Lyant said, How close will they get? I see you see where the mojos are. He said, Yeah, I said about there. And no fly. What were those widgeon?
SPEAKER_01I really saw Gadwall and Widgeon is a mix.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so the Gadwalls. I ain't never done it up there in North Dakota like that, but the gadwalls this year were crazy. They come in in the fields easy and smacking them. But yeah, Wyatt pulls up first group, and I got obviously I have six clients too. Okay. This man pulls up first group, and all the clients go, golly. Because Wyatt just boom, boom, and kills three ducks, bro. I was like, hey, chill, chill, chill, chill.
SPEAKER_01I tugged back on that layout, so I was like, ah, might just calm down for a second.
SPEAKER_02I mean, there was only like I don't remember, there was like six ducks that actually finished out of that like group of 15.
SPEAKER_01It was they were like a light, like on our side, they were kind of they were like lighting what? So we're on the left side, they were lighting right to or yeah, right to left.
SPEAKER_02And what's even crazier is we hunted that field the day before too, and it was it was even better.
SPEAKER_01I know you sent me that text, and because usually the trend was banger sucked for a week, and banger and then suck for a week.
SPEAKER_02Well, yeah, because dude, the we just didn't get ducks until like low-key came. Uh huh.
SPEAKER_01Halloween, y'all got ducks. I remember you saying. When did you come again? It was a week or two before two weeks after I left is when y'all beat the crap out of it.
SPEAKER_02No, you came like the 20, the 20th around then.
SPEAKER_01I can't remember. It was yeah, because it was the week before our our season, so yeah.
SPEAKER_02No, October.
SPEAKER_01Two weeks, no, two weeks, two weeks before our season, because it was North Dakota and then Kansas, and then our opener. That's why I left Kansas so early. Oh, oh, oh. I'm almost positive.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, because uh, but yeah, October how uh Halloween set it off, bro.
SPEAKER_01Like I was a little jealous. I was like, oh my gosh. Because I you didn't shoot till then, and you were sending me videos of just hundreds of ducks, and I was like, oh my goodness. Because what we would finish what?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you came October, oh you you came uh let's see. Yeah, the tw you came like the 22nd through the 25th or something like that. 27th.
SPEAKER_01Oh shoot, I didn't know I came that late, so I had a week or two in between Kansas.
SPEAKER_02So yeah, you uh you came up there and then October 31st through November 5th was like that was the best time up there. I think we should have a lot of things. Yeah, we shot about and the and the snow started showing up, and the ducks are usually right behind them. But bro, yeah, we pounded them. But the uh duck season in Tennessee though, man, was was kind of crazy. This year uh I hunted a dry field first opener. That shit was wild.
SPEAKER_01I thought no way. I was like, there were there's no way, and then you're you sent me the picture, I was like, that's kind of wicked. That was awesome. Oh, that's dope. I ain't never heard no way doing that here.
SPEAKER_02It was awesome, dude. I mean, the place that we went, like, dude, uh how we killed ducks, I have no clue. It had a like a literal driveway all the way up underneath the blind, like gravel. Okay, you park like alright, so imagine like there's dirt on top of like they basically built a pit and then there's like an awning that like kind of slants down behind the blind, and you pull your truck under there and park it there. And then you go in there, but there's I mean, there's an opening on the side of it the daggum size as a garage.
SPEAKER_01And there was no like cover or nothing, nothing draped over it. No.
SPEAKER_02And and then we get in this pit. I mean it's basically pit style.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_02And it it's like, but it's weird though, because it's not like a metal pit, it's like um cinder box.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Because it's not wet. They don't it's dry.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_02And uh we get in there and the guy's like, let me turn on my heater. So gets the heater going.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, open in the morning it wasn't even cold, was it?
SPEAKER_02I don't remember. It was cold enough to need the heater. It's great. There was frost on the head.
SPEAKER_01I will never complain about a heater if I'm in a blind.
SPEAKER_02If someone's gonna be a little bit more, there was uh frost, frost on the decoys, but he was like, Oh yeah, I guess I didn't remember being that cold though in the morning. Yeah, but the decoys were out the night before. But um, anyways, and dude, sun came up and I said, All right, here we go.
SPEAKER_01All I heard before shoot time was you you had no hope going into it, and I'm not gonna lie, I didn't either. I was like, there's no way he's about to go shoot these ducks. Well, I almost didn't go.
SPEAKER_02Let's just that's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_01Cause I mean it's pretty good.
SPEAKER_02And I would have been ticked. Yeah, it was a good drive, but uh so yeah, ducks start flying over and they're coming into the decoys like before shoot time, like wood ducks going just through the decoys, and I'm like, oh my gosh, this is about to get nasty. And then um, bro, the sun comes up, and I mean I'm talking like groups of 60 or 70 flying around, and I'm like, bro, what is this? I mean, it was it was uh like somewhat not really past shooting, but more like the ducks weren't coming to that field, you know what I'm saying? It was more traffic hunting.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so that that you're just kind of getting their interest. I'm trying to get them just close to the other.
SPEAKER_02You're just getting their interest, yeah. You're just catching their interest. If they get interested, bro, they may be cooked, especially with me on the calls, bro.
SPEAKER_01And uh I was excited for you when you said that. I was because I was like, dude, I hope he don't drive. Because we've done it. I mean, you gotta think Kentucky. We drove all the way from one, we didn't we we shot at one duck, and it was just uh we were past shooting it kind of at I mean it wasn't far, but it was like it wasn't like he was about to finish on us. I mean, that was terrible. There was no water. Yeah, it was uh I was excited. I was excited that you got into him opening the morning because there ain't nothing much much.
SPEAKER_02Out of anybody who didn't deserve it, it was definitely me. I've already had my fun for years.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but you gotta think you put in the work. I mean, I saw when we were in North Dakota, I mean, we were working until you know eight, nine o'clock at night. So slept in the uh slept.
SPEAKER_02I mean, dude, you know, some people complain about it, bro. That was the most fun I've ever had.
SPEAKER_01And I got paid for it, bro. Are you serious? Yeah, the only thing when I was there is sometimes, you know, it trying to make sure the clients have fun when you're not shooting ducks. You gotta think there's a couple times, you know, we're sitting there and Man, I'm not gonna cap with you.
SPEAKER_02I bought beers for my clients a couple times, like guys. I'm sorry, here's a case of beer.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I mean, you you're we were sitting there in the rain a couple times, or we're out there, me and you just sitting there trying to figure out like why when we were hunting that pothole, like why are these ducks? It's windy, we're in the only little little back part of that.
SPEAKER_02And I mean there ain't no it's not even like we had a terrible hunt either. I mean, you can't complain. I think we should have 10 that day. Like, yeah.
SPEAKER_01I mean shot 10 for going in somewhere and not having a game plan, you know what I mean? Like, I mean, you knew there was ducks around there, but that property line stuff was weird there, so it's like you can only hunt in the this part of the pond. And I mean, which we made that when we made that adjustment, it was it wasn't as bad because you know they they they were wanting to land out in the middle of the pond, which I don't know, made no sense.
SPEAKER_02But yeah, yeah, that other that other spot that we hunted on the pile too is the same, but yeah, I mean North Dakota was really honestly hit or miss. Like we'd have days where we'd see a huge influx of birds, and then like kind of by the time you came, I'd been watching that field for probably like two or three days, and then I hunted it the day before you came, and then yeah, and there's no telling how many ducks we didn't see, you know.
SPEAKER_01And we couldn't see 75. I say 75 yards is where we probably could stop seeing, and you didn't hear we were talking to each other where they're where they at? I was like, I don't see them. I was like, you can't see them right above our head, and I'm like, Yeah, you can hear widging whistling, you go gaddles and meh meh meh meh meh. And I'm like, I get where they at? I don't know, until they're sitting down right in your face. But there they are.
SPEAKER_02You did get to you did get to experience a little bit more of a mallard shoot though. The day before we didn't shoot by like two mallards.
SPEAKER_01No, we missed it though when we we went after me and Mabel went after that one that soared forever away, and they were floating in front of them. And I'm like, kill them! Like, I was like, You got 10 mallards.
SPEAKER_02They were probably like a lot of times I come to realize like whenever I was in the spread, like I'd say, kill that duck. And they would it they'd be like, dude, that duck was like 65, 70 yards away.
SPEAKER_01I was like, oh, you're talking about from when you're out? Yeah, I just thought from where we were, I was like, ain't no way.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, dude, I had a group, uh the group that that shot, they were really, really good shots, but and they definitely capitalized on stuff, and we definitely shouldn't have shot as many birds as we did. We just kind of like it was just one of those fields. But they uh I'd be like, hey, y'all think y'all can shoot that? And they'd go. They didn't they were like that's all we needed. Well, I mean, low-key, like I told him, I was like, guys, I really don't care. Like, if I tell you like, don't shoot, then that means don't shoot. But like, if I don't say anything and like a duck sneaks in, like, shoot the duck. Like, if especially if I'm not calling or working. That was remember that group that got they was ill when uh they were ill, that group.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that one widge and that was the work on top of the mojo. And I I knew it, you didn't see it because you were looking over here, and I'm like, I knew somebody was gonna say something, and but there's 50 mallards over here, and you're like, well, I mean, next time if we want, we can shoot the one and not the 50. And then you're then you're screwing up a whole body of ducks. But that field, too, that night before we were before we left to go get everything to sleep in that field. I mean, the amount of ducks we've seen was crazy. I don't know. I don't remember which one.
SPEAKER_02Was that a field that I had already hunted earlier in the year? I don't know. Was it was it like a hill?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we were kind of sitting, it went up and we kind of sat not in the bottom, not in the middle of the pond was behind us.
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah, to the right. Yeah, yeah. That that it was a wheat field. Yeah, yeah, bro. I know I shot 20 ducks there on opening day, and that thing was loaded up. That field, I don't know what it still was, I don't know what that field was.
SPEAKER_01It wasn't a lack of ducks because there, I mean, there was I mean we were seeing groups of a hundred, and they just they'd come over us twice, and then they wouldn't even think about, you know.
SPEAKER_02I don't know what it was about that field, but nobody ever hunted it. Like it would have ducks in it, and I would just wait on it.
SPEAKER_01It was not posted, so they probably why they knew they weren't about to land in there.
SPEAKER_02But did I hunted it a couple times, and I mean every time I like I don't remember how many we shot that day, was it like 10?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we shot 10 and the goose, I think. If I'm not yeah, I don't remember.
SPEAKER_02That group was kind of ill, it was raining. That group uh they just had a rough couple days, and it is what it is. Then they were already mad because uh they booked that Airbnb without telling Will and he had already booked them one. It was just crazy time.
SPEAKER_01Well, and not only that, too, it's hard when you got half your group on the same different like they're on different pages. I mean, the guy brought his dog, and you're like, I got my dog, and like I know she's good, and that you we had ducks working us, and he's seven foot tall. I mean, he was a big old dick. I'm like, you're like, get down, and he just lays on the floor, like, dude, you look like a freaking blob of mud. Like, you're not my size, you're a big dog.
SPEAKER_02Dude, I'll tell you what. Uh, dogs was like the death of me. Like, if I ever started an outfitting business, I would probably allow dogs because I'd want to make the money, and I mean it's their hunt. Like, this is the way that he thought, like, it's their hunt. Let them run it if they want to. Make sure that they know they're running it, though. Don't like at the end of the day, I was like, hey, like, and the other guy who came up after after you left, or was he already there?
SPEAKER_01With the you talking about the one guy by himself with the dodge. I think he was after me because I remember you calling me and talking about anyways. He's scared to get in the water or something.
SPEAKER_02No, not that guy. It was the it I'm talking about the other guide.
SPEAKER_01Oh, the other guide, yeah, the with a little bit of brown lab.
SPEAKER_02No, that dog's good.
SPEAKER_01Mason's?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, mason's what we were saying. But uh he he said he'll just straight up tell him he's guided for a long time and he's sick of him, you know what I'm saying? He's he'll tell he'll he told the clients he's like, he's like, Hey, your dog has one chance. If I tell you to go put your dog up, it means put your dog up. That's what he told every part.
SPEAKER_01He didn't care, he didn't care either.
SPEAKER_02And uh anyways, the that I mean I should have been a little bit more that way. It's almost like, what do you do? Like, because uh one group I had like I did say that, and everybody in the group was like, Thank you for saying that.
SPEAKER_01Like, we didn't want to tell them even the group that was there with the one guy member, he got pissed off. He was like, All right, like it get the dog, like we're we're we're trying to hunt, not play fetch.
SPEAKER_02And yeah, and sometimes you gotta realize that, and then I mean, like ultimately, like I'm I'm the say, like whatever I say kind of goes because ultimately I'm the guide, and right. Um, I mean, I know what I'm looking for, and I know my dog ain't about to be out there doing no BS. She's gonna go get that bird and bring it back.
SPEAKER_01They're paying to hunt, not if and if I had a dog, you know, and she was new or he was new, whatever. I don't mind you bringing it, but just know what you're doing. I I'm saying for me, if I knew my dog, you know, was messing up or wasn't listening, it's a game over. Like you're going to the truck. Like, you know what I mean? I'm not sure.
SPEAKER_02You're paying $350 a day to hunt.
SPEAKER_01That's what I'm saying. I'm not gonna sit there and keep saying, you know, going and get my dog or telling my dog where to go, and like uh you if my number one thing, this is what I told a buddy one time, I said, bro, if you have to go get your dog, if you have to go out of the blind, go halfway to the bird, you might as well just go pick the dang thing up. Yeah, like yeah, the whole point is not having to get out from where you're at. I don't want to get out of the layout, you know, a hundred times.
SPEAKER_02Bro, that was my favorite thing, is like, hey, Mabel back. And she just goes by.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, she you just you know, we have the time you sit up, and that's all you've got to do. Yeah, I just go, hey, back.
SPEAKER_02And she goes, it's it's it's great. And I hope that for everybody because having a good duck dog is like one of my favorite things now.
SPEAKER_01You're the only one that's I I know a few people that have a duck dog, and Mabel's definitely the best one I think. Some because a lot of them just let them do what they want, you know what I mean? Or like maybe I'll let Mabel do what she wants.
SPEAKER_02She wants to sit in there and you know what I mean. You work with it, you know what I mean? Let her do yeah, she's got the drug. During the summer, if she wasn't hurt right now, we'd be training.
SPEAKER_01Right, exactly. I mean that just kind of you know, throwing a tennis ball isn't gonna do it.
SPEAKER_02No, man. But uh, well, I guess we can get off dock season. Uh, bro, you had a heck of a turkey season.
SPEAKER_01We did all right. We should have had a few more turkeys that died her.
SPEAKER_02Well, everybody ended up tag well Riley didn't, but everybody that was her first turkey though, right?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it was. We got she got a good one though. That was uh you couldn't have drew that one up better, which I'm trying to think the week before felt awful. We we would hunt all day. I mean, and I'm talking about all day, it was from the time you know we started hunting, we went and took an hour nap and went back out, and we found this turkey at 7 p.m. like hot by himself. And I'm like, there's no way. I called one time and he gobbled, and I'm like, oh boy, and Brody uh Brody's like, You lying? I'm like, dude, I'm telling you, get over here right now. He wasn't saying right away. But this turkey's kind of like in a field, kind of off down. It was hard to hear him. And you know, he's coming, coming, coming, and I and that was something I learned this season too.
SPEAKER_02At seven, bro?
SPEAKER_01Not at yeah, it was ridiculous at night, bro. It was ridiculous, and it was just you know, not calling. And I'd call every like one like one time every three or four gobbles, and he was just every time he was closer, closer, closer. And finally I seen his head, and I was like, oh boy, here we go. And he was probably 25 yards, and he's walking in front of us and um he just coming, coming, coming. I'm like, all right, whenever you whenever you're ready. I'm that's you know, our our biggest thing was it's hard to hide three people when when you're in a kind of on the edge of a field and trying to make something happen quick, you gotta you know really be still. And he's I'm like, all right, whenever, bro. He's like, kill him. And she missed. And I was like, oh boy, she was tore up. Well, fast forward next weekend. We hunted, I don't know, she had that next shot, so she was uh she was up and we had uh found this turkey in the evening and you know, figured out he was gonna roost and uh no figure out where he was roosting or where we thought he was roosting. Come to find out, we uh were really looking and we found this slip because he he was going around us every time we couldn't figure out where there's one little trail he was walking down, and it opened up kind of towards like the front entrance, or really the side entrance, and I was like, he he can't pitch anywhere, either he's about to fly over the road, and you know, because we're 75 yards from him, and he's probably 10 yards from the road, and the field's to our right, kinda. So, you know, it we're we're about I don't know 150 yards off the road. And I'm like, he's either flying across the road or he's flying down right here, and we hear hence fly down, and they're flying the opposite direction. So like, that's fine, let him go that way. I was like, he can, I mean he can only pitch here. Yeah, or if he does, doesn't I he's flying straight down, walking somewhere. And I hear I hear him start, you know, moving up in the tree. And we're not even calling at this point, we're just let him do it when he's like firing. There was some videos that one morning, and oh I remember, yeah. Like, dude, this is nuts. And you hear him in the in right on the hand, and I'm like, oh my gosh, he walks back a little bit, he's probably five yards away from it. He comes, he's looking around, and me and Brody, we cut the video because we said it like 20 times. And finally he, I don't which is good. I was like, if you're never Brody was like, if you're never comfortable with the shot, don't take it. And so I was she waited until he was completely still and she whacked him. It was perfect too. We're sitting off in a little creek with our backs on it.
SPEAKER_02So he did that little, he did that little jump.
SPEAKER_01Oh, he was she that was nasty, and she was like, She didn't believe it. She's like, Oh my gosh. I was like, Yeah, that was good for her.
SPEAKER_02Bro, you was it you and Brody that doubled up by like 5 30, bro?
SPEAKER_01We uh Brody shot his opening morning at 6 09, and crazy story. We did not hear it. We he was out there, I was mowing still, and he was already out there in the backfield. And um you were mowing, yeah. I was mowing, yeah. And I got done, huh? That morning. No, no, that evening.
SPEAKER_02Oh, oh, I was like, wait a minute, why was you mowing, bro?
SPEAKER_01You was mowing and then you went and shot a turkey mower. No, no, no, no, no. We did do that too, but we um didn't roost a single turkey. I mean, I even walked across, he walked opposite, didn't hear a single turkey. And we're just sitting in this, we were I not even joking, didn't have half the mind just not to get out there and at daylight and just try to hear one. Like, I was just like, we'll just see where he is, and then like there's no point going to set up anywhere. Like, we're not gonna, we don't know where we're at. Well, we're walking back to just kind of a general area where you know we've seen turkeys and I'm like, we look at each other, like, oh boy, and and it's we're we're at time to go. Like, we got lucky there's a tree line, and then the other field, and he's on the back tree line. I'm like, we've got to go like now. And it and we probably get set up around 550. So I mean at that time, you know, Sun's, you know, we're we're it's time to be still and uh he flies down around I don't know, it was before six, and we can we can hear him and Brody's like he's gotta be right here somewhere. Anyway, what the the part that sucked was we were on the back, there's a little hump and we're just tucked back in the woods, and he's like, He's gotta be right here. And finally I see his head, and he's like, I can't see him. I was like, Well, just wait, he's a little far. And he peaked that ridge at about 40. I said, just let him come, let him come. And that's the same thing. We every few gobbles, we're just a little light, yep.
SPEAKER_02And I've messed up so many times, and sometimes I do like it when you're you know hot on the call, but yeah, I'm I'm huge on if they're coming and kind of let them come, and if they're standing there, just let them stand there.
SPEAKER_01Like if they want to come, they're gonna come, especially when you know what I mean. He's already closed the distance that far. And I mean, he sees the decoy, you know what I mean? It's I mean, yeah, unless that scares him off, but we didn't have nothing but a hand. It's not like we had a full strutter of Jake out. He comes, he gets about 25, and I'm like, whenever you're ready, he's like, You want me to shoot him? I was like, kill him. And he uh I had the video, he was so mad. I had the video, and right before I'm looking, and right before he shot, I went like this. I'm mad like he was mad. He was like, Are you serious? It's all right, we uh then we switched and we get on this turkey goblin. Same thing, just shut up. And I was trying to find him though at the same time, so like we'd close we'd come 20 yards call and then we get you know another 20 yards, and finally we're in within 100. We need to sit down and this turkey's coming. I can't see out. We found a roadbed where we kind of got a bend, so we kind of sit on this side of it to where he's had to come looking. It wasn't just a straight on the straightaway, so we stayed where it was kind of like curved, and he's like, Here he is. I'm like, I don't see him. He's like, just he's he's coming. And he started getting skiddish. He's like, You have to kill him. I was like, dude, I can't shoot through this, there's no way. And I'm not if I've got a shot, I'm shooting, you know what I mean? So it's not like it's not like I'm not gonna shoot. If I've got if I know I can shoot, I'm shooting. And he got he was at about 25, and he came about five yards. I let him walk about five more yards. I was like, all right, he's all right. He just looks around. I'm like, oh my gosh, I said you did not dismiss. I got lucky he he went around the the the other side of kind of forked off. And I had kind of stepped out and got lucky and shot him when he was like kind of like right away. But I was a little embarrassing, 20-yard perk.
SPEAKER_02I'm not gonna lie to you, I didn't kill a turkey this year, bro.
SPEAKER_01I felt bad. It's so if you didn't live, you know, two million miles away.
SPEAKER_02Oh no. So, but honestly, I took uh I took some or I went with some kids, um, and I really, I really, really, really enjoy that. Um when I was guiding in North Dakota, like that was one of my favorites. Like, if there was a kid, we were gonna make sure that he shot his first duck. If there was a single, I would say, hey guys, like if there's a single, like let's let the kid shoot it. Like that's an accountable bird, you know. You know, let's see. And uh so but I love that. And so uh opening weekend, a buddy of mine called, he said, Hey, well you uh you want to take my son, and I'll take my daughter on the same farm. And he said, This farm, we're not even allowed, like adults can't hunt. He said, He only lets my kids hunt. And I said, Okay, yeah. And so we're we're over there. Man, we set up in the same spot. I didn't hear nothing. And I'm like, mmm, that ain't good.
SPEAKER_01No, it's and it's hard, especially with kids, you know, they start getting well.
SPEAKER_02I mean, because you want to sit in the blind, and we were sitting in a good spot.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's hard to get them set up and everything, you know. When you're in the blind, you can move around a little bit.
SPEAKER_02You're trying to get an eight-year-old to hold up a 410 and the the shells are heavy for him, you know what I'm saying?
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02So, anyways, I was uh uh we sat there for a bit and then uh man just nothing happened. So we walked back towards the trucks and like you get on the high ground up there and kind of look around. We were gonna go set up on the on the other side of the farm uh where he said sometimes they sit and uh because you couldn't hear over there. So uh we got up to the top and I looked down and like there's like a pond through some trees. I'm like, oh, there's a big old uh Tom right there. I looked through my binoculars, I was like, Tom. I was like, we're gonna go chase this one. Why don't y'all just go over there? So Hunter and his daughter went over there and I took his son and we sit in this uh in this stuff, and dude, I ain't never had so many ticks on me, bro. I was getting a tick. I was getting livid, dude. And so I got impatient. I I watched him and I just never seen that Tom again. Well, what I think he did was he took the tree line way around and then hit the field on the right, and I think we were eventually hunting him. But bro, this turkey gets in the middle of the field. We're back in the we're back in the little pig pen that we originally started and just kind of over the decoys waiting. This turkey comes out, and I'm like, oh, there he is. Like, just wait. Like, wait, Maverick, he'll come. And Maverick's like, I'm getting kind of nervous. I'm like, no, no, no, now's not the time, bro. Now is not the time. That's hard with them, kids. And uh I was like, now is not the time to get nervous. That so that turkey comes to 70. I'm like, hey, Maverick, like get set up in the window however you want to. Like, he's still kind of far away. Like, he ain't gonna see you.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_02He was on, he was off to the left side coming to the decoys through this little gap in the trees. And uh Maverick starts like freaking out. He's like, he's like, the dog, the dog, the dog. And I'm like, Maverick, shut up. Like, he's close, like, be quiet. And he's like, the dog. And like, this little kid is like, uh, he's a good little kid, but he's a little turd too. Like, you know, he's always on some BS and uh uh anyways, uh I look over, bro. The farmer's freaking uh bulldog or like pit bull was walking through the field right into the decoys, bro.
SPEAKER_01And I was like, oh no, no, no. And I think I was like, oh boy, because about 10 minutes went by and I got a video. Here he comes. I didn't say nothing.
SPEAKER_02I got is you're joking with the dog of the gosh, bro. The dog, all right. So, first off, like Maverick is like, I don't know why he's never been like attacked by a dog or anything, but he just is like real weird around dogs. You don't like dogs, like he don't even like like Mabel like that, right? Like he just kind of like well, I grabbed that dog because he came in the pig pen. I grabbed him and like held him right there and was like, good boy, good boy, like trying to get him to just stay right there and see if the turkey would come. Turkey was hung up, and then the dog went and like flailed and he got out of my arms. And so he walked and then he went straight to the turkey, and I was like, bro. So me and Maverick waited for him to get a little ways away. I was like, All right, Maverick, you gotta stay with me, but we're about to go on a mission. Maverick, poor little guy, his legs are so small. It was it was it was not good, and then we get back up to the house, and so I'm like, all right, well, that's it. Like we walked around. I see Emma, his sister's got a big old Tom over her shoulder, and I was like, and Maverick's like, and it's never, yeah, it's never especially your sister, you know.
SPEAKER_01He he he was and uh imagination.
SPEAKER_02Emma had to crawl up on one probably like probably like a 40 or 50 yard crawl.
SPEAKER_01That's what it it's it's in seeing like through the woods too, not really like thick and watching kids, you know. She's old enough to do that. Smiles on your face. Yeah, well, uh that's hard to get uh people to crawl, and you and that's what it's it's hard. That's what we struggled with. Not struggled with, but it was harder for us. But we always it was always a group of us. Sometimes it's just me and Brody, you know, but yeah, but majority it was me, Brody Biley, or or somebody else, me and Brody called.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I don't even know. I felt bad, but uh me and Brody that second one he shot, I was like, we are on a like we had to go on a we had to cut through this field and we had to keep this patch of trees in between us. I was that's when I wish I'd have got on video. That one was sick. Um and we crop crept up on him, and I was like, Riley, I said love you, but you gotta stay in the truck, and Brody's like, yeah, probably not going on this one. I was like, she's like, that's fine.
SPEAKER_02Well yeah, sometimes we like that, man.
SPEAKER_01It's sometimes too many people is too many people. Like it would have been times where you know me and Brody just sneak up, or you know, Brody and whoever, it's just kind of like you split up in groups. Um but no, we snuck up on that one and peeked our heads around the corner, and I was like, oh boy, here he is. And I couldn't get the words when he started coming, I was like, I couldn't get the words yep out of my mouth fast enough. Is it him and him because we're caught in, you know, knee high grass or wheat. Uh not wheat, but I think just cover crop. And he was uh I seen that yep back foot. No, I enjoy kid kids is probably my Brody's obviously my top one that I enjoy hunting with. Like hey, yeah, yeah, but that's your brother. Like, yeah, you can't but kids are kids are up there.
SPEAKER_02It's it's is sometimes I wish I had like a brother that would like just down for it like that, too. Like, yeah, Brody, yeah, Brody ain't gonna say no to you. Like, bro, that's stupid, but I'm down. Yeah. Like, bro, you guys literally like let's not forget, you guys literally biked into a spot with a boat motor over your arms.
SPEAKER_01I promise you, I would never do that again. That was we were talking about that uh last season. I almost felt I literally thought I I was about to hurt myself when I that tree was laid over in the road. I tried to go around it into the muck. Yeah, that's when I about went sideways. That was stupid.
SPEAKER_02But bro, Brody probably never said, uh, that's probably not a good idea.
SPEAKER_01Y'all just went, bro. Brody's like, Can you need help? I was like, we're about to find out and he found out I needed help when he was on his trip back. No, but yeah, he uh there's a bunch of times where I needed his help to kill a turkey this year. That first one, if it wouldn't have been for him, that turkey wouldn't have died. He we tried everything calling, not calling, hen decoy, hen and jake, and then finally the fourth day finally pulled out the full strut and back at him.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I yeah.
SPEAKER_01My Jake got beat up this year, and I oh my gosh, I felt so bad when you sent me that, and I was like, dude, I said no way. I said, because sometimes it'd be like that. Like it's happened to the same thing.
SPEAKER_02There was no turkey around us, goblin, nothing. The only one that was goblin was in the top of the field, and so I was like, all right, let him get over the hill, and I'm gonna I'm gonna go get him. Like I ain't going. And uh, so we leave. I mean, it's like 7:45, like it's not like early, you know what I'm saying? It's not like it's like seven and they're just now coming out, like it ain't early. We leave, um, go over there, and uh look I I look over the hill and I'm like, oh yeah, there he is. Bro, first off, we got I I spooked him and it like I thought I was I thought he was a lot further away, and I got caught by him, and then I seen him usually that's the problem.
SPEAKER_01Sometimes it's the Lone Beard, but a lot of times you don't even see him, you don't even know they're there.
SPEAKER_02No, and I like I went through a valley to get to him, and I just I don't know. I'm also not patient, like I ain't gonna sit there and wait for him to gobble. I'm just gonna go get him. I just whatever. Like I said, not a good turkey hunter. God gave me all the gifts to be a good duck hunter. He said, but turkeys you ain't getting nothing. That's right.
SPEAKER_01That's one thing that we finally picked up because we patience, me and Brody this year. Yeah, about that. I mean, even turkey we had a turkey hang up in the tree till like 7 30 this this season. And I was the and it was even crazy. Last year we had one, we had Brady got a video of it somewhere. We thought this turkey was on the ground just like strutting and wouldn't move him. This turkey was in the tree at 8 in the morning. And I'm like, bro, what are we doing? All right, whatever, he's got it gone. He ain't gobbled in a while. We walk around the corner about 8 15, 8 30. I was like, bro, you've got to be kidding, there's no way in the tree, but no, we uh we wish it's not to say that there wasn't a turkey we didn't spook this year.
SPEAKER_02We did for sure, but we just yeah, patience is uh is definitely good. So then I uh yeah, that turkey though, he can't there was another turkey. We go back like walking over the hill, like we're just gonna like sit it out for a little while. And I'm like, there's no way we just passed over the hill, like there's no way there's a turkey down there. So we just walk the hill back over, not around the edges of the field. But walk over the hill, and I'm like, oh crap, get down. And of course, he's seen us and he ran back in the woods, get down to my decoy, bro. He's done beat the ever-loving crap out of my brand new SX fully flock decoy. It's got dirt all over it now. Like, I was ticked. So that then that Sunday, I was like, man, I ain't gonna do that again. I'm gonna sit this afternoon, and I don't care if I sit here until dark, I'm sitting here. I don't care what happens every 10 minutes. I'm gonna just hit a little just ever so slightly. Bro, it worked, other than the turkey, he was close enough, don't get me wrong. I just couldn't shoot him. You know, whenever you're turkey hunting, like it's like, all right, I'm hit enough, but like I'm missing this one little spot that I can't shoot.
SPEAKER_01Is that the one where you said he was walking through the woods barely?
SPEAKER_02And you said he was walking on the edge of the woods, yeah, but usually they came down. Like every time I get them on my camera, they'd be kind of further out. He literally walked like within like a foot of my camera. I got a picture of my decoys behind in the camera and a picture of him like just blown up.
SPEAKER_01I wonder what made him slip and not even think twice about the decoys, or not even think about the decoys. And uh maybe, but he had a I wonder, I wonder what made him like you know, just yeah, maybe the decoys.
SPEAKER_02He also had a hen with him, so he had it. I mean, dude, that's a big problem at the farm, is like low-key, they just don't ever like get free. Like by the time most of the time, also they don't roost on our farm and they don't drop in on our farm. So it's kind of like a traffic field, and you gotta just hope they don't have a hen.
SPEAKER_01Right. No, yeah, that's what we struggled with. And there's a couple turkeys we killed that didn't have hens. But a lot of our problem was that one that first no, that second one I shot. Uh we knew. I mean, I hate, hate, hate doing this, but we do hunted him. Like, we knew where he was gonna come. It was a matter of can we get him because we we didn't have permission on the property line. Like, we we like we've asked two years in a row to hunt this property, and she's like, No, no, no. And I went over there this time. I'm like, Brody, I've got to go ask for permission. I was like, I said, I'm gonna get her to like let me shoot across the fence. Like, I because she told me before both years, Brody's ass and I asked. She's like, No, we had hunters out here one time and they took a full wheeler and rudded it up, so now she don't even want nobody on her land. She's like, you know what? I I sat up there for 10 minutes and like, what are you doing? I was like, give me a minute. And I'm like, uh, because I had an airpod in, and he's and I was like, just what what if you just you know, I can get him to the fence, but I can't like get him to crawl. Like, he I I can get him to crawl. Like, that's how I've shot them in the years, but it's like it's it's a pain, like they can only cross this small section, so that's how I've had to kill them in the past. I'm like, ma'am, I know I can get them to the fence. I said, if you just give me permission, even this one time, just to let me uh shoot just across the fence. Yeah, I was like, I I literally you you won't see me on your property, and she's like, My daughter would hate me for this. She said, But as long as you just come get it and go back, she said that's fine. And then because you know, like I ain't fooling with stuff like that.
SPEAKER_02I can't I know you big role follower now.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I said I ain't fooling with nothing like that.
SPEAKER_02So I said I told her, look, ma'am, I ain't down for that anymore.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, uh-uh. And and I was like, I promise you, like, we're not gonna go on your property and like hunt. I said, I just want permission, you know. And that turkey died that day. He got right there at the fence, and I said, I ain't even waiting for him to cross. I said, I got that okay to shoot, I'm shooting. And which it probably had a lot to do with figuring out what he wanted. They figured out he wanted that decoy, but I said, if it wasn't for Birdie that hunt, I because I was we were 10 yards away and he had the decoy, and I was like, Hold it up. And he said, I said, here he comes.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, bro. That there's a piece of property where they roost at, and nobody can get permission over there. And I mean, I've asked a couple times, my buddies asked a couple times. Like, I've asked her, like, hey, like, you like bourbon, you like beer, you like money, like what do you like?
SPEAKER_01I I got there's got to be something you like. What do you want?
SPEAKER_02Like, what what do you want? Uh can I come bush hog for you? What can I do? Because like that property is where all of the turkey is. Yes, yeah. And uh this year, I don't know how, but one of the neighbors got permission over there or didn't, I don't really know, because I seen him over there and I seen a side by side, and uh he kept calling every time we would call, and I was like, that hint that ain't no hen, that's somebody calling back there. So I walked towards the fence and I see him like creeping, and he like stands up, like you know, like I like do you have permission or do you not? But like Loki, he stood up and then like we were like, I mean, whatever. Like, but he was kind of like standing there, like he was hot, like I was like, I was like, and then we just kept walking.
SPEAKER_01I was like, I guess at that point, what are you gonna do? You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_02I ain't it ain't my property, but I mean me dipping up, it was like it definitely it definitely hurt the turkeys over there. By the end of the year, there was only about one still goblin, and he did a he didn't go, he didn't come to the field anymore. I wonder what happened then. Well, I think a lot of them got scared from that roost spot. I don't know if he he may have shot some, I don't know, but it really screwed up the farm this year. Yeah. Um, which sucks. But I got I got a couple properties that I've been working on this spring uh to try and get permission on, but it's some of those properties where it's like I got connections to them, I just gotta kind of like wait it out and get the permission over the summer or something.
SPEAKER_01It's it yeah, I know what you're saying. I've got so many points on Onyx where you know I need to go ask, but it's hard when you know people have been like, oh, I've asked there five times and I haven't got told no, but that and it's the dangers thing, and that property where I shot that one I was talking about, it's a five-acre property, and the lady next door, she she just has about one of the only fields around unless they walk, you know, a couple hundred yards through the woods, so they go out there and mose you around and roost right there, and then they'll sometimes they'll cross the road and come back. But yeah, that property, we just happened to, you know, I asked her, she was like, No. The weirdest thing was she said, No, I don't like hunting, but you can ask the neighbor. I was like, What? I said, I ain't never heard someone say that. How are you gonna tell me no? But ask the neighbor. So I went a couple years ago and that's when I first got permission. And uh he was like, Yeah, I don't mind, just make sure you shoot this way. And I was like, All right, and it's it's one of those where it's kind of like it's a traffic property because you know, yeah, until this year when I got permission to shoot, you know, across the fence.
SPEAKER_02Across the fence. Yeah. Yeah, that's uh permission, man. I I'm not gonna lie to you, I've already asked for permission on some goose fields for next year, and then it ain't even almost time to be asking. But if they're there right now and there's a pond on it, I'm probably gonna go ahead and ask.
SPEAKER_01I found a few feeds on a couple back roads, but I'm with you, like these fields are like, you know, the corn ain't even it it's you know, it's it's ain't even it's on its way, but it ain't even close. So it's like but they eat are they eating in the growing cornfield? They're not this field looked cut, like it was almost like they didn't plant this year or something, but they were I mean, it was I mean I'd say probably 30 or 40 of them.
SPEAKER_02I'd ask on that.
SPEAKER_01If it ain't I got the pen, I got the I got the pen. The hardest part is like it's the big farms, they got a lot of them have the gates to their houses, and it's like I'm about to leave a note or something.
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah, or bro, you gotta let your boy Big Fuss get the phone number. I'll find it though, don't you?
SPEAKER_01That day, I that day you were there. I don't know how you was finding these numbers. I was like, I can't find it. You're like, give me the phone. We'd stop bro do he's like, call this number. I was like, ain't no way.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, sure enough.
SPEAKER_01It was too, wasn't it? Yeah, I was like, What is how does it you're like, you gotta you gotta go, you gotta I don't know.
SPEAKER_02I think you had white pages for once like no, I didn't I literally was looking them up on Google, chat GPT, Wikipedia. You gotta do everything, bro.
SPEAKER_01Some of them people was ill. They were like, How'd you get my phone number? You like looked it up.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, sorry, bro. Your phone number is on the internet, bro.
SPEAKER_01You were you were wicked when it came to finding a phone number. Like, dude, I can't find it, and then I give you the phone for two minutes, and then there it was.
SPEAKER_02Especially I'd rather ask in person, but sometimes I ain't got time to ask in person. And if it's not a big feat, I ain't going across the town to go ask you.
SPEAKER_01No, I I agree, and that's one thing that I learned with you. You know, sometimes you ain't always got time, you know, to ask for permission unless you know it's the house is right there, or you know.
SPEAKER_02I'm more than likely gonna call, but I'd rather ask you in person, just so that you know who I am, I know who you are, and everything always works out.
SPEAKER_01That's like mm-hmm, I agree. That's like you know, getting permission through a friend through a friend. Like, hey, I've got permission to hunt here, he don't care who's hunts here. I call him. That's what I'm saying. I'm not about that.
SPEAKER_02It's it's also not if that guy ain't going, I ain't going.
SPEAKER_01Right. I agree. I agree with you. I can't, I don't, and then that and then it's the same way with like people stealing your properties, you know. That's why I'm so I'm not quick to take people all the time because I've had people try to you know, oh hey, I'd come, yeah, I come hunt with you. Hey, I'm gonna try to get permission here. I know these people, like I ain't about I don't I ain't gonna fool with that.
SPEAKER_02No, I'm the same way. Like there's uh there's a pond in town, or not in town, it's like it's on a back road, and uh it's got probably like 30 geese on it right now. Like I know a buddy who has permission, and I'm like, hey, like call that guy and like ask him because there is some geese on it, make sure he's still good. But like I ain't about to call that guy and ask him. You're the one that told me about the pond originally, like you had permission on it back in the day. Like, you're a better shot than I am, anyhow. So I'd rather you ask. So right, it's just stuff like that. But um I don't know. Hopefully, goose season comes around. That's gonna be about that's gonna be about the only season. Last year's goose season, the opener was busting. We found about 140.
SPEAKER_01You sent me you sent me that video of the day or whenever how many days that was before, and I was like, oh, he's about to smack him.
SPEAKER_02Right, and we did it perfect too. There was uh four groups who had permission on that field. That blew my mind too. You told me that, and I was like, I ain't never heard of anything like this. Well, it's two, like, bro, like every year you need to rem renew your permission. I agree. Two groups showed up, and we're like, Yeah, the guy gave us permission years ago to hunt here. We've been hunting for years. I'm like, yeah, I don't really care. This is ducks and geese, bro. This ain't the same. I said, the two groups that are hunting are here. We're about to go set up. Don't mess us up, go find somewhere else. Like, yeah, like we've already we were the first two groups here. We set hay out in the field three like three weeks ago because we knew that it was a dirt field, you know what I'm saying? Like you need a hide. And so we set hay where they've been feeding that, and we set them decoys about 40 yards off the left-hand side of the bonds. The geese just came right across, did a cross shoot, and they'd come in and right through, land about middle of the decoys and just get dirt napped.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you I can't remember who it wasn't, it was I can't remember what video you sent me, but it was it was a big, it was I don't know, 15 of them, 20 of them. And then I just started seeing them fall. I was like, Oh, I shouldn't get into them.
SPEAKER_02Dude, I I don't like I don't like hunting with big groups like that, but we hunted like 14 or 15 people.
SPEAKER_01That's a lot. You know what I mean? Like you might get a few groups and that's it.
SPEAKER_02It's not like well, I mean, dude, if we would have hunted with uh well, low-key, I wish the geese would have come in in fives and tens. We'd have shot every bit of our we'd have shot every bit of our like I think we could have shot like I don't remember the math, like 15, 30, like 75 geese. We if they'd have come in smaller groups, we'd have shot every bit of 75.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because you gotta think, you know, sometimes people are shooting the same geese, sometimes geese are getting.
SPEAKER_02I think we shot like 45 still, but yeah, it's still nuts for here.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah. You send me that you send me those pictures and videos like boy.
SPEAKER_02But hopefully we can we can repeat. You got any plans for next season or not really yet? You know, me and geese, we've never really well not geese in general, just ducks, whatever.
SPEAKER_01Um obviously not North Dakota. I think I'm gonna I don't know. I don't I know we might go to Kansas. Um Arkansas.
SPEAKER_02Oh yeah, you go with Big Fuss.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, probably West MC again, you know, thug it out here in the Honestly.
SPEAKER_02I um I gotta look at the new regs on the uh WMA near our lease in Arkansas to see what they are. I know that they've changed a lot, haven't they? Uh I know some stuff came out for non residents, I just need to check it, but either or I mean, if we don't have if we're not full, we can have other people.
SPEAKER_01So right.
SPEAKER_02And uh your boy's gonna have to find free time without the baby.
SPEAKER_01So I know, I'm happy. Congrats, congrats. That note.
SPEAKER_02That note Oh, that was awesome.
SPEAKER_01That made my trip.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. But uh yeah, I don't know. I I got I could have quite a few trips going this year, but you know, it's all part of the plan, man. It's all part of the plan, and you gotta think, you know, it it's you know how I was telling you uh I'd I'd like to have a brother to hunt with, bro. I bet my kids even better.
SPEAKER_01Oh, my dad, that's what my dad said. He said it's awesome, you know, when we used to go hunt and fish or whatever. He said, But then you have kids and it's like a whole different ball game of like enjoying it.
SPEAKER_02Oh, for sure. Well, it was good to have you again. I was glad to uh catch up and um I look forward to doing some more podcasts here soon. I've been a little bit slacking, so need to get back after it.
SPEAKER_01But you got a lot going on though.
SPEAKER_02Uh no, I just be working a lot now and uh I know you gotta make that money. I got to, bro. Uh these kids are expensive.
SPEAKER_01Well you I mean you gotta think then. It's you having the son, so then you you know oh yeah, automatically hunting.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, no, I I was uh already looking to when I could buy his hunting license so I didn't have to spend 150 years like me every year.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and it you it's cheap too, isn't it?
SPEAKER_02It's three hundred dollars or something like that for kids for someone under like two years old or something.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's ridiculous.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's what are we what are we at now?
SPEAKER_01Like two grand almost?
SPEAKER_02Ours is like four.
SPEAKER_01Is it actually?
SPEAKER_02I think it's like three or four for a lifetime, yeah.
SPEAKER_01I mean still be worth it low-key, but like why why I'd rather just pay the hundred whatever every year.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's like yeah, just whatever, but I'm gonna do my kids a justice, and I don't care if they never hunt. 300 bucks spent well, I mean, if they go points.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's $300, and then you know, if for some reason they just have you have it in case you you know what I mean.
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